Where does WhatsApp get its money from?

Whatsapp free or how naive are the users


01/19/2016 11:00 am - Started by mattes007
(The full text of the interview, e.g. at http://www.gmx.net/magazine/digital/whatsapp-mitgruender-jan-koum-dienst-bleibt-werbefrei-31291190)

Unfortunately, the crucial question was not asked in the interview.
When I read "Facebook was very clear and it said several times in public that WhatsApp should not be financed through advertising." ... the question should be allowed "How does Whatsapp earn its money?"
But nobody wants to hear the answer "With the data of the users".
Whatsapp "sends 40 billion messages per day", namely voice messages, video, pictures and text, and every user should ask himself "How much technical equipment and manpower is required to manage this data communication?" And above all, how is it financed if neither subscription fees nor advertising is used for financing.
Even if 1 billion users pay 1 billion euros per year, "Zuckerberg" would like to "earn" the "invested" 22 billion for Whatsapp at some point.
The statement "The messages are encrypted and we do not save them - and we do not intend to." however does not correspond to what is stated in the terms and conditions. It clearly states that messages are stored on American servers, and that all images and data become the property of Whatsapp. The encryption is only implemented between Android and only for individual chats.

Elsewhere he mentions so-called "stickers", which the main competitor "Line" uses. The advantage of the latter messenger is that identification is not "only" made via the mobile phone number, but also via e-mail and a nickname ... via which you can also be found. Threema also supports the same, whereby 100% end-to-end encryption also works for group chats and between multiple platforms. Nicknames do not exist, but there is an ID.

First think about it, then don't use Whatsapp!
[1] Where the money comes from
consecuencia replies to mattes007
was made clear in the statements recently: Via such commercial services that otherwise also run via SMS - just more functional. Administration / delivery of train tickets, order history, taxi calls and many other variants appear to be far more bearable if you take into account which hurdle you have now removed; which increases the attractiveness significantly.

For me, WhatsApp is simply a no-go because it is limited to one device. Switching between PC and smartphone was a matter of course for me 7 years ago with ICQ, which (in my opinion unfortunately) is hardly used anymore. Today I do it with Skype and Telegram.

If I already have a PC keyboard in front of me and cannot use it to compose messages, I can stick with the SMS. At least I can write them via messages on Windows 10 from the PC.

And no, I don't see a browser remote control in the least as an alternative to the native desktop client.
[1.1] Head of KundenverarscheĀ³ replies to consecuencia
User consecuencia wrote:
For me, WhatsApp is simply a no-go because it is limited to one device. Switching between PC and smartphone was a matter of course for me 7 years ago with ICQ, which (unfortunately, unfortunately) is hardly used anymore. Today I do it with Skype and Telegram.

I can fully agree with that. For me, ICQ and Skype have also been on my smartphone from the start. I am also enthusiastic about Telegram because of the multi-platform support. The PC client is awesome. It is a real shame that ICQ went to the dogs like that.
[1.1.1] rpn replies to head of customer abuseĀ³
oh, didn't even know that wa only runs on one device. My telegram runs on 5s and I don't want to miss that either. Arms wa-uter (inside)
[2] cassiel replies to mattes007
User mattes007 wrote:
First think about it, then don't use Whatsapp!

Inform about free alternatives and then use them. I recommend Pidgin with the OTR extension. You can get a Jabber / XMPP account somewhere (paranoids can even run their own server) and there are clients for practically all platforms. It sure takes some getting used to, but it does what it should.
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